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Comment by medievil_witch on April 30, 2009 at 11:18am

madmouse we did the camping at christmas and christmas dinner could be a cold salad as no cooking with fire restrictions etc but we didn't mind, the only time we had traditional xmas was with one side grandparents or at my great nans but still just a family gathering but when camping it's a group of friends, my family has never been big on religion except my grandfather, we are as we are and nobody judge's each other.

Comment by madmouse on April 30, 2009 at 7:46am

When I was a kid Christmas was magic in my eyes. Heaps of gifts yes, but the magic for me was the rituals that were formed, like visiting all the oldies that had somehow become part of our family circle, mums hunting cake, watching my sister decorate the tree, visiting the boulavard to look at all the decorated houses and of course checking out the Myers window. I did'nt have the best childhood but Christmas back then was something very special and Iam really glad to have those memories. I agree its all about consumarism now and that is a crying shame. I watched a special on Ostari this year and it was about a family who travel to the same camping place each year and follow the same rituals each year it was so encouraging to see them celebrate in such a simple yet perfect way. I hope when I get grandkids that Iam given the opportunity to share similar events to this with my grandchildren. It takes all the focus on spending money right bak to basics and it all becomes about family. To do this I need to start now so that the ritual continues thru the generations. Iam looking forward to the challenge.

Comment by medievil_witch on April 29, 2009 at 3:13pm

i have never had that one so they don't know the difference

Comment by medievil_witch on April 29, 2009 at 11:55am

i believe each to there own, we all choose our own path and if people choose to do both so be it that is there choice, it is hard with kids when u don't want to influence their choices, and everyone else celebrates things that seems normal to others, it's all commercial now so there isn't the meaning in things for xtians just seen as days of giving to the kids, without my influence my son tells everyone he's pagan, i grew up in a family were we give but never celebrate the religious side, as a child i would have told u easter is giving eggs only nothing more (fairy tale) and christmas was for giving presents with another fairytale that started with a man who gave to the needy, and i agree xtians did take allot of pagan celebrations n twisted them for there own

Comment by Johoanna Boykin on April 29, 2009 at 11:23am

Chris, Easter was originally pagan, just like all the Christian holidays. They were all pagan celebrations. The church took them over way back when they were trying to convert all the pagans in Europe before the burning times. Look at the Christmas tree. That was originally the Yule tree.

BTW, Madmouse, I do see anything wrong with wishing someone Happy Easter. It was originally our celebration anyway. And no, it doesn't make you any less pagan.

BB, Jomo

Comment by madmouse on April 29, 2009 at 6:26am

I recently experienced a situation where I sent a message to my friends on this network wishing them a Happy Easter. I did not intend to insult anyone however it has been pointed out to me since that it is an insult and a very unpagan/wiccan thing to do. The friend in question has explained why she has such strong feelings about the subject and I respect that. However I was quite suprised at the fact that this person became so hostile over such a simple mistake(one I will not make again). Iam not christian, catholic or anything else that reveres a one God aspect. I was never baptised, but my parents used to send me to Sunday school. My kids are not baptised either. I would prefer for them to sort out their beliefs on their own without any pressure from me. I have more respect of nature than I will ever have of any religeous establishment and follow thru accordingly. It has been stated that I can'nt be wiccan/Pagan because I sent the email saying Happy Easter. Iam learning that hostlity and intolerance exists in most religions even this one. Iam not willing to give up my beliefs because of someone elses perspective. I will continue to honor the seasons, the trees, the earth and the Godess as this is what works for me. If you consider this unpagan then I'm sorry maybe I should not be here. Thank you for sharing your thoughts regrding this matter.

Comment by Johoanna Boykin on April 28, 2009 at 9:35pm

lol Cameron.

I'm a new pagan, and an ex-Christian. I spent most of my life in the church. Mostly Baptist, but my parents did send me to a Catholic girls high school. It was torture for a tom boy who wanted to do wood working and play cricket with her brother and his friends.

The way Christians see Pagans goes back to the Burning Times, and probably before. They realy believe what they have been taught for all those years, that Witches worship the devil and they sacrifice goats and all that sort of garbage. Now they are scared of us because of the lies that were made up so many years ago.

Then you get Christians like me. I don't consider myself a Christian anymore. But I was always very open minded to what other people believed because I believed (and still do) that you can learn from everyone, no matter what they believe.

It's sad that a few lies told all those years ago are still being believed. But it is up to them if they want to find out the truth or not. All they have to do is ask us.

BTW, I'm very firmly still in the broom closet. Only my house mate knows that I'm now pagan.

But I feel freer than I ever did as a Christian. It's nice to not have to grovel to God about how bad you are and how much you need forgiveness.

Ask me anything about Christianity and I'll explain it if I can. There are lots of similarities.

Brightest Blessings
Jomo

Comment by medievil_witch on April 28, 2009 at 1:40am

lol i like u cameron u r how u want not what ur told, join the club i am far from normal

Comment by medievil_witch on April 28, 2009 at 12:23am

lol good idea cameron

Comment by Witchcraft Australia on April 25, 2009 at 11:34am

Blessings Minxi & Nettie,

I will not elaborate as not to keep the issue ongoing ( I really would rather not continue to fuel the fire ) but I have had complaints in regards to some more personal comments.

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